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02/04/2010 10:44
 

Hi,

As an estabablished business I am looking to move from my current payroll software to a new one and like the look of this one.

I am currently trying to set 12Pay up and I have a couple of questions.

1. We already have Payroll numbering set up, which is different to 12Pay, is there a way of changing the default ones.

2. Where do I enter Department Names.

3. The company pay a monthly sum into a Pension Fund for the directors, (No Tax/NI to Pay) how would you set this up, because I can see an Employer Pension box on the Employee 'Pay' tab, but don't know how to get something entered here.

4. Now that Tax and NI are submitted in a single payment to a single account, is there a single report that shows me the total monthly payment due.

Thanks in Advance for your help.

 
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02/04/2010 17:33
 

Hi Glen,

Welcome to 12Pay. It's very easy to learn and I've found the staff very helpful.

On your questions, (and this may not be the "official" way to do it, but it's what I've discovered during my use of the software):

1. Once you've set up your employees, you can click on each one, go to the 'Personal' tab, where you enter address details, etc. and alongside 'Home Phone' you'll find an employee number. I've tried changing this and it seems to work. Interestingly, if you add a new employee and the number exists, it adds an 'A' after the default number, but you cannot change to a number that already exists. Therefore, you may need to work backwards from the last employee when re-numbering.

2. Again, on the 'Personal' tab, you can find a drop-down menu for department. Initially, this is empty. However, once you enter a department, it becomes available on the drop-down menu for every employee and you only have to click the right one.

3. Under the Company Name, you will find the label 'Payments/Deductions.' Click the '+' at the side of this and there is a menu of all the possible payment types. The first option is to add a payment type. Therefore, you can either use one of the existing payments, or, if none of them are suitable, you can create your own. There are tick boxes on the payment and deuction definition pages that allow to specify if it is to be added or deducted with or without tax and NI being taken into account. You may need to play around with these to get it right.

4. When you click the button at the bottom of the 'Payroll' screen to advance to the next period, the software automatically generates a pop-up P32 showing the whole year to date. Be careful with this, however, if you have more than one payroll, such as a weekly one and a monthly one. The P32 will pop up when you finish the first payroll, and again when you finish each of the others. The safest way, in this case, is to ignore all the pop up P32's and follow the alternative steps below.

4 - Alternatively, when you click on the company name at the top of the left-hand window, you will see 'Reports' at the bottom of the right-hand window. Click this and two of the options are 'P32 (Payment Detail)' and 'P32 (Payment Summary)'. The titles speak for themselves, but the answer is the same. On the right hand side of the report is a column showing the totals for the month/quarter/year.

4 - Continued - The summary report also has a 'Pay HMRC' column on the left hand side. I don't use it, but on the 'Payments' tab in Employer Maintenance there is a button to record payments you have made. If you keep this up to date, then the P32 reports will take this into account when showing you how much to pay.

Hope this helps. There may be more information that the support desk can offer, but this should get you to a position where you can experiment.

Regards,

Michael

 
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02/04/2010 21:00
 

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the quick response. Points 1 and 2 now sorted and working ok so that's Brilliant. I did look at the Payments/Deductions sections and i'm pretty sure that it would work, but when you look at the Employee 'Pay' section, I see that there is box for Employer Pension which is Greyed out, so I assumed that somewhere there is a way of getting amounts entered here.

Once I've got this bit sorted I'll check out your suggestions for Point 4, which I'm sure will be Great.

Cheers

Glen

 
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02/04/2010 21:33
 

Hi Glen

In the absence of a response from the support desk (which, in my experience, is usually received in a day or so, but it's holiday time), I've just tried adding a Stakeholder Pension payment to the Employee Pay page. This allowed me to enter a figure in the Employee Pay page. And, running the calculation did not produce a tax or NI liability.

However, I would suggest checking the response from Support, just to make sure that this is the best way to do what you're trying to do. Pensions are such complicated things!

Michael

 
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04/04/2010 09:00
 

Thanks very much to Michael for his extremely helpful responses. I had a shoulder injury which meant that I decided to lay off keyboard work for a couple of days during the holiday.

You can only enter employer pension figures if you tick the "Pension" box when you're defining the payment in the payment list. Employer pension contribution should be entered as a positive figure once you're able to do so (while employee contribution is negative, of course)


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05/04/2010 09:12
 

Hi,

To be honest I wasn't expecing any response this Easter, this is great service. Howvere I'm not sure that I fully understand the solution. So if you can bear with me.

Do I create a 'Directors Pension' in the Payments/Deductions tab, probably based on the Lump Sum Pension as that looks close. When I assign this to a Director, I add the payment in the 'Employer Pension' box, but don't add anything in the 'Pay' box as this is a Company contribution. Is this correct, it looks as if it is, but when I print a payslip there's no mention of the payment.

Hope this makes sense and thanks for all the help.

Glen

 
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05/04/2010 09:30
 

Glen, Yes, but maybe you can even just use the lump sum pension as it is.

To show employers pension contributions on payslips tick the relevant box on the reporting tab of the payroll form.


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