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20/11/2009 18:24
 
Hi,

I've got a few problems with running the software - all my own problems I add!

These are things that I'm just not getting my head round and now that our member of staff tax code has changed it's completely confused me.

Can I explain the company background....

We pay one member of staff on the 1st of every month in advance. We have setup a standing order for the member staff an equal amount each month (£1,200). This makes sure that he gets paid every month on time and means that he doesn't have to wait for a cheque to clear etc. I'm not sure if there's a better way to do this as his actual pay should be £1,202.30 which means that our books wont balance at the end of the year. My thought on this is to add up all the £2.30's and pay him a cheque for the difference in order to make the books balance.

So his salary I've entered into 12payrolls is £20,000 which is now showing as £20,000.04 in his tab.

In our yellow book we've made the following payments:

May - £616.42
June - £616.62
July - £616.62
August - £616.57
September - £616.67

The tax office have written to him to say.... "His new Tax Code is 66T as of 13th September."

12pay is showing Month 6: 01/10/2009

Questions....

I realise we're out of sync with our payment so I'm wondered what I need to do to take this in hand and what I need to do a monthly basis in order to get the system working?

How much do we need to pay in using our yellow book?

Do I need to tell 12pay how much we're giving out employee every month?

Do I need to tell 12pay how much tax/ni we've paid up to date?

Do I need to restart/re-calculate the tax code which I haven't enetered yet?

Any help/information you can give me to sort this mess out would be really appreciated.

Thanks
 
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20/11/2009 18:38
 

Hello, I can't tell from the information supplied whether you've been running 12Pay since April, or if you've just started. (ie does 12Pay contain the employee's pay since April).

If you have been doing that then all you need to do is change the employee's tax code, and they will probably pay quite a lot more tax the first month that you do this. You can do this right away, in the current month, and then reprint payslips/reports etc. You shouldn't need to do anything special to make it work, this is a really common thing. Because it is a cumulative tax code the exact monthly timing of the change really doesn't matter at all, cumulative tax codes are automatically self-correcting.

You'll need to change the net amount that you're paying the employee each month to reflect the changed circumstances, and because the tax code has changed the net pay may well not stabilise for a couple of months. So probably best to stop the standing order, pay the correct net each month, and sort out the accumulated £2.30 errors at the same time.

Then, ongoing, I'd strongly recommend that you pay the employee the correct net as shown in the payroll each month, not an arbitrary close figure to that. If that means that you can't do it by standing order then so be it. It'll make things a lot easier in the end, particularly if you ever got inspected. The inspector would expect to see employee payments that tie up perfectly with payslips and P11 reports etc and won't be impressed when you couldn't show them that.

Let me know if you need further clarification.

EDIT: You can see how much you owe each month (yellow book) using the P32 report, which can be printed from the top-level employer form. This report also comes out automatically each month from the payroll as you advance to the next month.


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21/11/2009 13:14
 
Thanks,

I'm getting the idea of what you mean but have sent a PM regarding this.
 
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23/11/2009 18:08
 
Spoke to the guys at 12Pay today and I'm kind of getting there....

I was told that after entering all my 'Payment History' I shuld then be able to select 'P32 Payment Summary' report and it'll tell me how much money is outstanding to HMRC.

When I do this I get the error message....

The request report was empty: P32 Employer Payment Summary Year to 5 April 2007 (Year ending 05/04/2007)

The P32 only includes completed periods, any calculations where you have not progressed to the next period will not be included.

Also please check that you have the correct 'Report Year Ends' on the employer form.

No idea why I'm getting this? Anyone know?
 
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23/11/2009 19:29
 

Whenever you run any report a form appears for a few seconds asking which year you want it for. You should change the year to 2010, (which will stop the timer) and then press continue.

Or alternatively you could alter the Report Year on the company form to 2010.


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23/11/2009 21:42
 
Thanks for that - I see!

I've posted a copy of the results from that report. Could you tell me what we owe and which columns we need to be looking at etc.

Thanks

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24/11/2009 07:15
 

Chris, Below the bit that you've extracted from that page there is a key that explains the columns.

  • The leftmost column is how much you owe HMRC.
  • The rightmost column is how much you've paid them.
  • One in from the right is the total bill for each month.

It looks as if you've attributed two payments to month 5, and none at all to month 4. (not that that really matters, it is just the total that counts. According to that report, looking at the total at the foot of the leftmost column, you currently owe HMRC c. £1300.


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