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03/06/2008 16:32
 

Hi

The facility to record payments made to the Inland Revenue is vital - especially if your payroll and accounts are not integrated - it acts as a reconciliation. Are there plans to include this facility soon?

Regards

Emma

 
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03/06/2008 17:11
 
Emma, Thank you for your suggestion...

Recording payments to the Inland Revenue is an absolutely natural part of bookkeeping/accounts/reconciliation. Since that function must be performed regardless (using whatever accounting system our users or their accountants operate) it seems superfluous to require it to be done *again* in the payroll system. It appears that the overwhelming majority of our customers are in tacit agreement with our assessment, since this feature has only been requested twice, as far as we are aware, since the software was first released.

But we always try to be responsive to the requests of our users. Many software features have originated from user requests. If a significant number of users follow up on this request or come to us separately with the same request we'll very likely add the feature.


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09/06/2008 13:47
 
I was actually looking to do this yesterday.I think it would be useful at Payroll Year End.
 
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18/06/2008 11:09
 

I fully agree - it is a handy check when reconciling the year end figures.

 
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18/06/2008 11:43
 

We are missing something here. We still don't understand what benefit anyone is thinking that they'll get from this proposal. It just seems like a pointless duplication of a task that already *must* be happening as part of bookkeeping. Why is duplicating something that you already have to do  as part of bookkeeping any benefit in your payroll package?

By the same argument you should be recording in the payroll software what payments you actually made to each of your employees too, and reconciling those payments with the net pay in the payroll on each employee. You'd get the same benefit from that (whatever benefit that is). Does anyone really want to do that in their payroll software? If you want it for the payments to HMRC and not for the employee payments then why one and not the other? Isn't all this (reconciling employee and HMRC payments in bank and books) a completely natural part of bank reconciliation and bookkeeping?

 

As I say, we must be missing something here as several of you are asking for it, and we'd be delighted to understand what it is that we're missing, because understanding the purpose of the requirement will help us to produce better software. Answering purposeless requirements without understanding the problem that is being solved tends to produce bad clumsy software.

 


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18/06/2008 12:09
 

In my case some of my client's bookkeeping is done elsewhere. It would be useful to have everything in one place rather than having to refer to the "yellow book" (which I don't always have) or to the relevant accountant.

I have to admit that the ultimate reconciliation is done by the relevant accountant, but I prefer to check myself before passing the figures on to them.

 
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21/06/2008 11:21
 

I must admit I agree with Pete on this one.  On a rival product (*age !!!) you have the facility to record payments made to HMRC.  This is because, for some reason, some people writing the cheques accidentally transpose numbers, or you may have to rerun the payroll after the payment has already been made.  If that same person then forgets to make the additional payment it causes hell at year end.  You also may have an overpayment on the previous year to carry forward, for which you need to reduce the April/May liability payment for, and recording in the system the reduced payment (or increased payment)  can automatically link to the P35 production at the end of the year when you have to complete how much you have already paid to HMRC, and autocomplete it.  It saves going backwards and forwards to the bookkeeping system (or client) to find out the figures.

Just my twopen'nerth!

Adam

 
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13/11/2008 11:36
 

Our forthcoming release includes this feature. In fact I think we've already given Adam a "Beta" of that release but he may not have noticed the feature, which is on the "Payments" tab of the company under the button "Payment History". P32 reports automatically include payments entered in the payment history and show an annual reconciliation.

We thought of another even better reason why this was important. Sometimes an organisation ends a month or quarter in credit because of SSP reclaim or large tax refunds, and it is much easier to keep track of who owes who what if payments can be entered and reconciled with liabilities.


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25/11/2008 18:12
 

I did notice it!  (Although it took me a while after being wowed with the holiday options!!)

I would just like to say how good it is to use software that is produce by people who actually listen to their users and make amendments, rather than trotting out release after release with no real added benefit!

 

THANKYOU!

 
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25/11/2008 19:12
 

Aw, shucks.

Incidentally, that release now named 1.4.2 is the current standard download from our website...


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02/12/2008 13:49
 

Hi,

I've started using the payment history but having entered an amnount in pounds and pence it drops off the pence, does this mean that when we pay HMRC we can drop off the pence?

 

 

 
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02/12/2008 20:35
 

Ah, You caught us in a blooper. Now that is embarrassing. We're doing a minor release in the next week for a different administrative reason so we'll strive to fix this in that release too.

Incidentally, the minor release will include part weeks SMP which we've been working on recently.

EDIT: Version 1.4.3 is now available as our standard download. It fixes the penny payments issue, allows part-weeks SMP, and will print self-invoices with 15% VAT where appropriate. Apart from that it is unchanged from 1.4.2.


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